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Wednesday, 08 July 2020 03:08

Celebrating 1000 Episodes of Black Op Radio

On July 16th, Len Osanic will hold an anniversary celebration for Black Op Radio. This will be his 1000th program and mark a generation of programming. No one has exclusively dedicated himself to this kind of oral research on the JFK, MLK, and RFK cases. In addition, Osanic has explored other areas of alternative information on subjects the MSM would rather ignore. This program will consist of an hours long blend of new and old interviews with some of the luminaries Len has had on his program: Jesse Ventura, Bill Pepper, Oliver Stone, Zachary Sklar, Cyril Wecht, Jim Douglass, and many, many more.


Len Osanic began as the archivist for the late Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty. Prouty was a major consultant on the film JFK and he was played by Donald Sutherland in the film. Len’s first co-host was Anita Langley. Jim DIEugenio has become a regular guest on the show for over a decade. Don’t miss this celebration and tribute to one of the mainstays of alternative media.

KennedysAndKing: We’d like to start the interview by asking the same question you ask all of your guests on Black Op Radio. How did you become interested in political conspiracy research?

Len Osanic: With the assassination of JFK, I just couldn’t believe what was said about the crime, even at an early age, the official story did not sit right with logic. Many TV shows hinted that there was a story out there, but every time failed to really investigate, leaving me with the opinion there was more out there, but I would have to investigate. Then look at RFK and MLK and there is so much wrong with those cases.

KaK: Podcasts didn’t even start until 2004, what gave you the idea to start an Internet radio show in the year 2000?

LO: I had been doing radio interviews with Col. Fletcher Prouty to promote the CD-ROM I made for him and I was appalled at the talk show hosts who had no idea at all of these topics. I run a recording studio in Vancouver, Canada, and some women came into the studio to record a radio show and it was all rehearsal for a talk show they were planning. It just so happened that Fletcher became ill, so we stopped those interviews. Earlier, I met Anita Langley, whose husband was recording at my studio. She saw all the political books on the walls at the studio and offered to proof read all the documents for the Col. Prouty CD-ROM. We became friends and she knew the subject matter. Anyway, I was surprised how easy it was to produce a radio show. From my end, I had everything except the antenna. I just casually asked Anita if she would like to co-host with me. So I made a list of ten people I would like to talk to… and it just started from there. We bypassed the antenna and plugged right into the web!

KaK: What was the original vision for the show and how has it evolved over time?

LO: The vision was only to do ten shows to see if it was viable. I had listened to Mae Brussell, so I knew what a real show could be. No one can touch her preparation or research. I’m not sure we ever hit that mark, but on a good day we carry the torch. The idea was to not have commercial breaks and “let the guest talk.”

KaK: What technology did you have available when you started and how has the technology changed over the years?

LO: Hahaha, SO… the first live stream we did we had software that was used for taxi cabs, that would allow a speaker to broadcast for 60 seconds and then be cut off. A tech at the studio, Craig Nelson wrote code that would stream audio from an IP address to an HTML link on a webpage. The first broadcast I had a friend sit in front of a timer and reset the stream every 59 seconds so it would appear to be continuous!!! Of course, we wrote code to automate that right after, but that’s how the first live stream was. There was no live streaming software then. All we had to do was put an active link on a webpage “Listen Live” and we were broadcasting. We recorded all the shows on digital tape so we just had them archived and stored as a downloadable link long before the term podcast was around. They were “Archived Shows”. The first ten years I had a webcam in the control room and all the shows were live, but as more important guests had a limited availability we had to prerecord. The last ten years shows are pre-recorded so that the audio is cleaned up and the show notes are ready to go on Thursday to accompany the audio. We include links relevant to the topics discussed for the listeners to access. They were Real Media in the beginning, but now all mp3 and some posted on Youtube. I sell the shows by the year so you can get any year (52 shows) for only $10 by direct download. (Details here)

KaK: What are some challenges and low points you have had to overcome in order to keep the show running for over 20 years?

LO: Since I do this as a community service, keeping the servers running and paid for is the challenge. (Click here to help) A low point is that approx 40 guests I’ve interviewed have passed away now.

KaK: What is the most surprising thing you have learned from one of your guests?

LO: April Oliver and Jack Smith were on to discuss Operation Tailwind in which the US military had a problem with deserters in Vietnam. They sprayed villages, where these servicemen joined or dropped out to, with poison gas to exterminate them, because their knowledge of US tactics was too much of a threat. The trial of Scott Enyart to get his photographs of the RFK assassination back was eye opening. A high point was, after a six year hunt, finally finding Loren Singer, author of The Parallax View, and having him on the show. I’m still looking for Skip Woods, screenwriter of Swordfish.

KaK: We appreciate so much your integrity on the show and how you read each book before bringing an author on the show. Since you are so well read on political conspiracy research, what are your top 5 books on the subject? And what would you consider to be the top 5 or top 10 little known or under appreciated books on the subject?

LO: Understanding Special Operations by Dave Ratcliffe and Fletcher Prouty. Fletcher was the only person who was there in the Pentagon who would discuss what was going on. Anyone after him is reading documents or researching. To me, that is why he is the most important, he was there! Every researcher will write “here’s what I think happened“ while Fletcher Prouty writes, “Here’s what I did and how it was arranged.” More details of top ten books and movies here.

KaK: You must have formed many friendships over the years of doing the show. Whose support and encouragement have been the most helpful and impactful to you as a person?

LO: Chris LaMay who did show notes for over ten years was so inspirational to me. He unexpectedly died which was a huge loss. Rahul Arya Rrg now does very good show notes, which are so important because that’s what shows up in a search for a topic or author. It’s also a benefit that Jim DiEugenio takes time and is on every second week to take questions sent in, that has become a big part of the show as well. I don’t take questions live, because the one show I did when people called in, went sideways. I think we did that once… and that was enough!

KaK: Many of us have listened to you for close to two decades, but don’t know very much about you as a person. What can you tell us about yourself, so that we can know you better?

LO: I run “The Col. Prouty Reference Site.” I run a business “Fiasco Bros. Recording Studios” and make a lot of fun, short videos. I have a Facebook page if you want to follow me.

KaK: What is your vision for the future of Black Op Radio?

LO: To get picked up by Spotify like Joe Rogan did for $100,000,000.00!

KaK: What have we not covered that you would like to discuss?

LO: I’m very proud that Black Op Radio produced “50 Reasons For 50 Years” and “Postscript 1968.” They were the sum of what Black Op Radio accomplished. A scathing review of the fraud that was the Warren Commission. When I have a guest on, that is his time to talk about his research, but 50 Reasons was “my time” and that represents my views and outrage which you can see in each episode. 50 Reasons was made by Jeff Carter and myself while I put out 52 shows of Black Op Radio that year at the same time!

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